Peter Wright has a favourite phrase: “Imagine you’re a raindrop.”
Although it sounds like a pretentious instruction to a drama student, it’s actually the 63-year-old outdoor enthusiast’s way of defining his big project: the Scottish watershed walk.
Whichever way that raindrop travels on its route to the sea, be it the North Sea or Atlantic Ocean, defines which side of the watershed it landed on. And Mr Wright, a Duke of Edinburgh’s Award leader from Linlithgow in West Lothian, made it his goal to follow the route that divides the west-flowing water of Scotland from the eastern-draining land – all 1,200km (745 miles) of it, from the English border to the north coast.
The result of Mr Wright’s travels through the forests, bogs, moors and peaks of Scotland is Ribbon of Wildness – Discovering the Watershed of Scotland, the book he published last September and which he has been promoting with interviews with the BBC, STV and with blogs and Twitter feeds.
TGO’s Chris Townsend, the Mountaineering Council of Scotland’s president, said “The watershed certainly sounds like an opportunity to conserve a huge swathe of wild land running the length of Scotland, and a superb and challenging backpacking route.
“Peter Wright has done lovers of wild places a great service in providing the first comprehensive description of the watershed.”
Peter Wright’s raindrop leitmotif continued in his BBC interview in which he described tackling the route over nine months, with 63 days on the hoof.
Walking the watershed of Scotland in 2005 was, he said, achieved in the nick of time, as angina and the need for a triple heart bypass came soon after what he called ‘this epic venture’.
Peter Wright has also suggested setting up a Ribbon of Wildness Trust to help protect the land he walked through on his venture.
He proposes voluntary wardens to look after each of the five ‘marches’ into which he broke down the route, and the establishment of a charity to raise awareness of the watershed.
Interviewed on STV about the germ of his walk, Mr Wright said: “I went to the map library in Edinburgh, contacted geographical organisations and academics, but could find no definitive reference to a Scottish watershed.”
Similarly, he told the BBC: “One of the few subjects I was interested in at school was geography, so I reckoned Scotland must have a watershed.
“I wanted something that was going to be quite a challenge. Quite demanding; something that hadn’t been done before.”
But, as several contributors on outdoors discussion boards pointed out, there was a precedent.
John Davis said in a posting on Chris Townsend’s blog: “Dave Hewitt wrote a book about Walking the Watershed. I used to have a copy, but seem to have mislaid it.”
There was also brief discussion of Hewitt’s walk on the UKClimbing forums, on the OutdoorsMagic boards, and on the Walk Highlands discussions.
Richard Webb posted on the Townsend blog: “I really feel Dave Hewitt is getting done over somewhat.”
Hewitt, the editor of The Angry Corrie hillzine and outdoors correspondent of the Caledonian Mercury did indeed walk the Scottish watershed.
His account said: “In the summer of 1986 I was 25 years old, single, unattached and unemployed except for various part-time and voluntary community work involvements. I was also, and had been for a number of years, an extremely keen, regular and reasonably fit hillwalker. In a nutshell, I was footloose and fancy-free.”
And so he began his 80-day continuous south to north journey along the east-west divide and the result was his 1994 Walking the Watershed.
“Ostensibly the story of a long, long walk, it could also be filed under Autobiography, Geography, Topography, Survival Skills, Psychology, Asceticism, Meteorology and, at a pinch, Gastronomy,” wrote Hewitt, who has also contributed articles to grough.
“It is about a period of twelve weeks in the mid-1980s, about a country, Scotland, and a person, me. It is about the intertwining of these things, the weaving together of people, places and time in perhaps the simplest of all ways, that of putting one foot in front of the other: walking.”
One important difference between Hewitt’s route and that of Wright is that the former chose to head for Cape Wrath at the end of the journey, whereas the latter traveller finished his walk at Duncansby Head, both on the northern coast but at western and eastern ends respectively.
Wright says his is the true watershed route.
With the controversy bubbling away in the hillwalking community, we asked Dave Hewitt for his views.
“I must start by saying that Peter Wright’s watershed walk in 2005 was a fine and impressive achievement. I haven’t seen a copy of Ribbon of Wildness, but I congratulate him on that, too.
“I have absolutely no wish to rain on Peter’s parade, never mind on his watershed. But he has publicly said things over the past couple of years – for instance in an STV interview (in which he doesn’t name any of his predecessors but does accurately describe the watershed as ‘something that hasn’t been done very much before’), on his blog (‘the originality in my defining the watershed for the very first time … an entirely new long distance route’) and now in an interview with the BBC – such that I feel compelled to respond.
“I do this with considerable reluctance, and merely through concern that the achievements of several other walkers, myself included, are being repeatedly and widely misrepresented.
“Peter has argued for some time that Duncansby Head is the ‘true’ finish of the Scottish watershed, and that he is therefore the first person to have walked this ‘true’ route.
“I must confess to finding this odd in purely topographical terms. Scotland has a heavily indented west coast, a somewhat straighter east coast – and a substantial length of north coast. There is therefore a point where the west-east watershed splits into two branches – on the shoulder of a 796m hill named Carn Dearg, in Sutherland – and there is then a choice. The watershed walker, assuming they are going south to north, aims for either the north-western finish at Cape Wrath, as I did in 1987, or the north-eastern finish at Duncansby Head (or some might choose Dunnet Head) as Peter did in 2005.”
Hewitt continued: “I’ve always seen this as an either/or, a matter of personal preference, with both finishes equally valid in terms of the route.
“No one can do both, after all, at least not on the same walk. I’m not at all clear why Peter regards Duncansby Head, reached via a lot of doubtless fascinating Caithness bog, is the ‘true’ end-point of the watershed, while Cape Wrath, reached via some cracking final-fling hills – most notably Foinaven is, presumably, false.
“To me, both are legitimate, and it’s a case of take your pick. There is even a theory that any of the mini-watersheds leading to part-way along on the north coast, eg the watershed between the Kyle of Tongue and Strathnaver – would also be a legitimate finish. “
What was Hewitt’s view of Peter Wright’s view that the watershed hadn’t been walked before?
“With all due respect to Peter Wright, that’s nonsense,” Dave Hewitt said. “In terms of what I know, Peter is the fifth person to have done some form of it – and there may well have been more.
“The pre-Peter timeline as I understand it is as follows:
- My own walk covered the Scottish watershed, from the border to the north-western finish at Cape Wrath, in a single 80-day push from 11 April to 29 June 1987.
- Martin Prouse did Rowardennan to Ben Hope in one go in July and August 1994. Ben Hope isn’t on the watershed, but Martin followed the route all the way through the Highlands to the north-west/north-east split on Carn Dearg, then finished with the most northerly Munro.
- The late Mike Allen did the whole UK route, in numerous chunks, from Land’s End to Cape Wrath, April 1988–October 1994. He crossed the border on 24 May 1992. This, to my mind, is the most impressive and pioneering of any of the watershed walks.
- Similarly, Malcolm Wylie did the whole UK route north–south in annual sections each lasting roughly a week and a half, and wrote a short account of this in issue 76 of The Angry Corrie.
“He started at Duncansby Head on 9 July 1996 and reached the border in the summer of 2000.
“I spent a very enjoyable afternoon walking a few miles of the route with Malcolm and his son Tim in the Moffat hills on 21 July 2000. He reached Land’s End on 20 June 2009.
“This, like Mike Allen’s walk, was an amazing achievement. Malcolm did the same route north to south as Peter Wright was later to do south to north. They both connected Duncansby Head with the border at Peel Fell via the watershed – but Malcolm completed it five years before Peter set out.”
Peter Wright said: “If we went to some other countries, notably north and south America, we would find that their watersheds are very well known, and indeed celebrated. But not the Scottish watershed. Because, as I discovered, nobody had actually ever defined it.” What was Hewitt’s view of this?
“Peter is right to say that the American watershed – particularly the North American watershed – is celebrated. There are songs about ‘the Great Divide’.
“I would also agree that the Scottish equivalent is barely known, at least as a continuous, connected route – although, again, it has found its way into music.
“Even when my book came out in 1994, I had no expectation that the Scottish watershed would become more widely known as a consequence, at least not beyond the core hillgoing readership.
“While certain short sections – the Ben Lomond tourist path, for instance – will always be popular for less esoteric reasons, I can’t see the route as a whole ever becoming a busy walk, and neither should it be. For all that it passes through much wonderful country, it’s too long, too meandering, too rough and with too many ups and downs to appeal to any but a very few long-distance enthusiasts.
“If by ‘nobody had actually ever defined it’ Peter means identified and mapped, then I’m afraid he’s mistaken. The four watershed walkers known to have preceded him – myself, and Messrs Prouse, Allen and Wylie – clearly each did this. Even almost a quarter-century on, I can recall the excitement of spreading maps across the floor of my Glasgow flat in the winter of 1986-87 and marking the wiggly line with a red felt pen.
“The eventual Walking the Watershed included numerous hand-drawn maps of the route.
“But a few people were aware of the watershed even earlier. My friend Richard Webb – we first met, by chance, in Kinbreack bothy during my 1987 effort – had already thought of it, and mapped it, before deciding it looked ‘Too bloody hard’.
“And then there is this passage in Martin Moran’s well-known 1986 book The Munros in Winter, when he discusses the Caithness to Land’s End watershed with fellrunner Martin Stone, who says: “I’ve traced the route on all the maps, it’s the last great challenge.”
“That was in February 1985. As far as I know, Martin Stone didn’t actually tackle the route – he did, however, run the first sub-24-hour Paddy Buckley Round later that same year, a tremendous feat, well beyond my own abilities.”
Dave Hewitt is at pains to emphasise he does not want to belittle Peter Wright’s effort nor his literary production. “I repeat my initial point: I have no wish to diminish Peter Wright’s achievement,” he said, “but I am puzzled – even a little troubled – by his eagerness to publicly proclaim himself the first ‘true’ watershed walker, when the evidence indicates that he is no such thing.
“Were Peter to say, instead, that he was part of a tradition of watershed walkers, and that his decision to steer towards Duncansby Head in 2005 was a development of, or an alternative to, the Cape Wrath option, then neither I nor, I suspect, anyone else would have any quibble.
“Ultimately, I can’t speak for the other known watershed walkers, only for myself.”
Hewitt said the watershed has never been a race or a competition – it is arguably the antithesis of such things, Hewitt contends. “So if, even all these years on, someone emerged who had walked the watershed in, say, 1977 – whether with the north-west or north-east finish, it doesn’t matter – then personally I would seek them out, shake their hand, buy them drink and congratulate them on having beaten me to it by a decade.,” he said.
“Thus far, such a person hasn’t appeared, and it does still seem that what I did in a surge of youthful energy in 1987 might well have been the first walking of the route. I was hugely lucky to be able to do this, regardless of whether anyone preceded me. Similarly, Peter Wright’s own watershed walk in 2005 was notable in its own right, and he should surely let it stand on its own two legs.”
Peter Wright’s book can be ordered through his website Ribbon of Wildness. Dave Hewitt’s account Walking the Watershed can be read online.
grough asked Peter Wright for his response to Dave Hewitt’s views, but by the time of publication, Mr Wright had not responded.
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24 April 2011When first reading the story of Peter Wrights journey I was astounded that it ignored the Dave Hewitt expedition which I read about online several years ago. I feel that DHs story was very low key and sensitive compared to the glory seeking of PW and the fact that there was no reference to preceding walkers in PWs account very rude and dismissive. I am not impressed and will not buy his book though I cherish and re-read DHs self deprecating account regularly.
RattyinStirling.
Out in the Hills
25 April 2011Dave Hewitt mapped out and did the watershed walk in the 1980s and wrote a good book about it. Peter Wright should just acknowledge this. No need for a debate, really.
MrsH
25 April 2011Peter Wright has made a serious error of judgement by not crediting those who went before him either on foot or on paper. At first I thought he must have been misquoted (we all know how poor the mainstream media are with hill-related stories) but it’s occurred too often now. It seems very strange and completely at odds with the positive image of a man awarded the MBE and many other plaudits for his good works. The worst thing is that it distracts attention from his environmentalist message and thereby detracts from his cause.
Malcolm Wylie
25 April 2011I'm grateful to Dave Hewitt for mentioning my John o'Groats to Land's End watershed walk in this article, and can confirm the accuracy of his account.
I suspect that each of the small band of watershedders came up with the idea thnking it to be original, and with a sense of excitement that we might be the original pioneer. I personally remember discovering the title of Dave's excellent book "Walking the Watershed" after my first section (Duncansby Head to Loch Merkland) in 1996 - and I'm a little ashamed to say that I had the sinking feeling that he'd got there before me, followed by a sense of relief when I discovered that he'd satisfied himself with the Scottish part only.
I join Dave in congratulating all who have done this walk in part or whole - in a sense each one of us were pioneers. The literature is growing: as well as Dave's and Peter's books, there is also The Backbone of England by Andrew Bibby, covering the Pennines from MamTor near Edale to Gilsland at Hadrian's Wall. For those of you who've not read them, Dave's book is anecdotal, personal and a great read with several ROFL moments, Andrew's is beautifully produced and a fund of knowledge and insight, and Peter's is a campaigning tour de force.
I hope to add to the genre in the next few months, probably as an e-book initially. The style will be closer to Dave's than the others.
Mike Merchant
25 April 2011Congratulations, Grough, on airing this. I bought and read "Wallking the Watershed", but I confess I didn't think it DH's greatest writing and I seem to have got rid of it since! Like other posters I deplore the lack of acknowledgment of those who went before and the suggestion, implicit or explicit, that a watershed route needs to be staked out. It might make visitScotland and the outdoors industry glad but it would be another diminishment of exploration and adventure, and the last thing that should be needed.
Peter Wright
26 April 2011I would happily have engaged in this discussion much sooner, but was away in the hills over the Easter weekend, running a big-mixed ability Open Gold DofE Expedition, which had been over a year in the planning.
Time to catch up then . .
Firstly perhaps, a couple of pertinent quotes:
"I took my hat off in admiration for Dave`s effort. He had done the walk as a continuous journey, with only the odd day factored in for rest - a monumental achievement, and a true inspiration." - watershedepic 2005, Peter Wright.
And
"There have been a small number of people who have walked versions of the Watershed, most notably Dave Hewitt. His excellent book on his trek . . his account of his journey makes an excellent read, and has a compelling narative about what can only be described as a very demanding continuous journey, I differ on the significance of where the Watershed ends in the north." Ribbon of Wildness 2010, Peter Wright.
Nothing rude, disingenuous or dismissive about either quote then - quite the reverse.
The matter of what is said, and what is then quoted elsewhere is very apt, as is the need for a temperate approach, when comparing two very different different books.
I have been both fascinated and delighted by the diversity of responses to Ribbon of Wildness - but I`ll leave it to those who care to read it to discover their own `landscape experience` within its` pages.
My starting point in considering the Watershed of Scotland was, and remains largely goegraphic. It will come as no surprise then, that I have built an argument on the definition of the Watershed that stands scrutiny within that discipline. Lets see therefore, what the Royal Scottish Geographical Society has to say about it in the review that is set to appear in its` Magazine, this summer.
My research quickly took me into much wider environmental spheres - land use, designation and protection, organisations and agencies, current conservation measures, river systems, and even literary pickings - much of it outwith, but supportive of, the everyday walking norms.
Ribbon of Wildness is perhaps only a half of what it could have been, but had to be cut to fit the space available. In the process much of interest and relevance was lost; there will be opportunities to fill these gaps, no doubt.
In conclusion, I have indeed given credit where it is most certainly due, and gone on to write a book which adds something new to the genre, and if all of the published reviews and comments received to date are anything to go by, will also add to the wider human experience of the outdoors in Scotland.
Peter Wright
26 April 2011On a more humerous note, the picture you have chosen at the start of this discussion, doens`t portray victory at the end of the long walk. Rather, it is yours trully on the summit of Meall Ghaordie just six weeks after a quintuple heart bypass.
MrsH
26 April 2011Peter - good to read your response. To clarify, is this statement a misquotation? “I wanted something that was going to be quite a challenge. Quite demanding; something that hadn’t been done before.”
Or does your route differ significantly from Malcolm Wylie's ?
Grant Hutchison
26 April 2011I think the following point is perhaps worth pursuing (I quote from Peter Wright's first post):
"My starting point in considering the Watershed of Scotland was, and remains largely goegraphic. It will come as no surprise then, that I have built an argument on the definition of the Watershed that stands scrutiny within that discipline. Lets see therefore, what the Royal Scottish Geographical Society has to say about it in the review that is set to appear in its` Magazine, this summer."
I suspect many people (myself included) are likely to assign a rather low importance to geographical nomenclature when we weigh up the significance of a watershed traverse. The human dimension, ticked off in kilometres travelled, metres ascended and bogs trotted, looms so large that the particular names of the bodies of water on either side of the traverse seem rather trivial in comparison.
The Atlantic and the North Sea conventionally meet at the Pentland Firth, because the Orkney and Shetland Islands form a convenient (and conventional) division between those two bodies of water. This seems to be the only "geographical" reason to prefer one watershed over another, but I think to lend it too much weight is to correspondingly undervalue the human achievement of any watershed walk.
Beyond Duncansby Head, the idea of "one true watershed" in any case breaks down hopelessly as soon as one tries to draw THE watershed of the Orkney Islands.
Peter Wright
26 April 2011p.s.
Get your boots on, and come and join me, as I`m well on my way to doing the whole thing all over again - north to south this time, and, like some others, in a slightly disjointed way. The views ahead, are at least completely different.
"In the quest for new ways to describe wildness, to enhance popular awareness and appreciation, and to create the means for the public to obtain the health and well-being which it brings, the Watershed can be seen as being the giver of of a unique opportunity - promising an unrivalled experience".
The straight bit
27 April 2011I personally find some of this debate a bit worrying and a little sad for several reasons.
In my mind a journey, adventure or expedition is a very personal experience consisting of many individual parts, only one of which is the technical route. Its not possible for someone else to have done Peters watershed before, because his route belongs to him.
No one will ever know the full extent of his journey, the pleasure, the pain, the banter, the strangers, the sights, the solitude, the friends, the midges, the food, the smiles, the rainbows after the rain, the blisters, the pressures from home, the broken lace, the pressures from self, the mistakes, the triumphs, the tears, the wet socks, the soggy cake, the way the weather can crush you like an ant and the reasons it let you live this time!
The fact that he chose to share just some of his experience with us in a book makes us privileged people indeed. He reads as quite an inspirational guy in my mind. Add to that fact that he spends what seems to be his entire life trying to positively influence young people (DofE leader/youth worker) using what is ours to freely access i.e. the Outdoors in Scotland as his stage.
The future of Scotland lies in its people, especially the young. We all read the papers and watch the TV to hear of the struggle we face with ill health and inactivity which will likely cause immeasurable problems for our future generations.
So here we have a guy who is getting out there, being active, discovering beautiful places as he goes. He’s clearly not been dealt the best hand in life with a limp and a heart condition, but it doesn’t seem to stop him. The places both physical and mental are more than worth sharing, so he does just that, through the book as well as his blog and on various “social networking” sites, which as we all know are the common way of “sharing news” for the youth of today. I’ve no doubt that there are more young folk in Scotland who have been asked to “imagine you’re a raindrop” than most of us have hairs on our heads.
Peter Wright is most definitely the first and will be the last person to walk Peters watershed, no one can ever take that away. I’m not going to let technicalities get in the way of an achievement that is worth celebrating and sharing.
Going the further step to make efforts to conserve the ribbon of land that is Scotland’s watershed, and raise awareness of its existence in the hope that others will discover it themselves for their first time, with their kids, loved ones, friends, friends to be, dogs, thoughts, hopes and dreams buzzing around them just makes it all so worth it, for all of us.
Something worth sharing indeed.
Victoria Neves Pedro
27 April 2011The Watershed is a sharing thing and a discussion over exectitudes interesting. The Camino de Santago has many routes all of which end in Santiago de Compostela and no one minds which route you take. It the walking of it that is the important thing.
The Watershed of Scotland can surely accommodate a range of views. Participants in the discussion all have an interest which can only be lauded. A few because they have walked it themselves, sadly not I.
I can identify most people here, but who is Mrs H?
werkinparbeck
27 April 2011the straight bit - this of course is all uncontroversial - but, does peter say "i walked MY version of the (previously walked in other ways) watershed"..no of course he doesn't - he is only all over the media because they think he has invented it and he has done little to disabuse them in recent articles and interviews.
RagingBull
27 April 2011werkinparbeck hits the nail on the head. Peter didn't invent or discover the (a) watershed, and has done little to correct the media errors. Sorry, but I don't like that.
Dave Hewitt
28 April 2011For now, for the sake of argument and clarity, let’s briefly discount the claims of myself, Martin Prouse and the late Mike Allen – each of whom walked the watershed more than a decade before Peter Wright, but none of whom visited Duncansby Head.
The “controversy” (Peter’s word – see his 26 April Twitter feed, http://twitter.com/#!/RibbonofWildnes) thus appears to boil down to a couple of straightforward questions, which it would be helpful if he could answer:
(a) can Peter say whether he was aware of Malcolm Wylie’s Scottish watershed walk (Duncansby–border, 1996–2000) before the publication of Ribbon of Wildness?
and (b) can Peter point to any of his various writings and utterances (book, TV/radio/web interviews, blog, Facebook, Twitter) where he has “given credit” (again his words) or even mentioned Malcolm’s earlier-than-him walk?
If the answer to (a) is yes and the answer to (b) is no, would he care to provide his reasoning?
Jon
28 April 2011From Peter's blog from the time of his walk http://www.watershedepic.org.uk/journal08.php it appears that he wasn't aware of Malcolm Wylie's watershed walk at that time: "And this top left hand corner of the epic is what would make my journey a first - as far as I`m aware."
It's for Peter to explain himself further, if he wishes. The blame for giving the false impression of being "first" may need sharing to some degree between him and the journalists who conducted (and edited) the various interviews. On the other hand, a simple public admission that Peter was not first with either the concept or the walk (his version or others') would go some way to diffusing the "controversy". Or is the publicity just too welcome to risk it drying up? The twitter link suggests that he's lapping up the attention!
Grant Hutchison
28 April 2011I'm still pursuing the usefulness (or otherwise) of attempts to "validate" a watershed walk using geographical arguments. So here's a purely geographical argument:
We're concerned about the route a raindrop would take as it trickles downwards and away from the watershed ridge. If raindrops starting on either side of a watershed end up in dramatically different places, we think of ourselves as having a major watershed: the Continental Divide in North America, for example. We could take this thought experiment to a logical extreme by draining away all the oceans in the world, and asking ourselves what the final resting place of various raindrops might be in those bizarre circumstances. The watershed then becomes a characteristic of the whole surface of the Earth, not just the current land masses.
What happens when we consider the major watersheds of Scotland in this way?
North-flowing water will trickle across the Hebridean Shelf and spill into the Faeroe-Shetland Channel, down which it will flow to the deeps of the Norwegian Basin, above the Arctic Circle. East-flowing water will cross the shallow bottom of the North Sea, spill into the Norwegian Deep, and thence northwards along the coast of Norway to (again) enter the Norwegian Basin. But west-flowing water will spill off the Hebridean Shelf into The Rockall Trough, to be carried southwards into the North-Eastern Atlantic Basin. The significant watershed in this scenario is therefore the one that separates Scotland's west-flowing rivers from its north- and east-flowing rivers: the Cape Wrath watershed walked by Dave Hewitt.
We can imagine Hewitt continuing his watershed walk across the drained world beyond Cape Wrath. His route takes him across North Rona, and then he descends off the continental shelf to walk northwest along the Wyville-Thomson Ridge. The Rockall Trough is on his left, carry water to the south; the Faeroe-Shetland Channel in on his right, carrying water to the north. He climbs on to Faeroe Bank, then turns northeast to emerge in the Faeroe Islands. The Iceland-Faeroe Rise then takes him to Iceland, where he has a choice between turning to follow the huge chain of mid-ocean ridges, or of crossing to Greenland and then circumnavigating the Arctic Ocean along its various watersheds.
In contrast, Peter Wright's watershed walk continues beyond Duncansby Head, across Orkney and Shetland, and then simply descends into the Norwegian Basin. His route is no more than a broad ridge separating the troughs of the Faeroe-Shetland Channel and the Norwegian Deep, and it peters out where these two channels merge.
Hewitt's route links to global grandeur; Wright's route goes nowhere.
I hope that's an entertaining little fable. Does it convince you that Hewitt's route has more geographical validity than Wright's? I sincerely hope not.
Peter Wright
29 April 2011A few pertinent quotes to further raise and widen the level of debate . . .
The Dictionary definition of watershed, is: "An imaginary line which runs along the ridge of separation between adjacent seas, lakes or river basins, and represents the limit from which water naturally flows in opposite directions." Peal Press
"No other journey can give so sublime a sense of unity - a feeling of how the the Nations`s various different landscapes link together to form a coherent whole." The Scotsman.
"I`ve not enjoyed an outdoors book as much as Ribbon of Wildness for many years . . . an epic idea and walk, and a beautifully written book . . . which treads so lightly." J.B, Lancashire.
"A remarkable, incredible journey which others will most surely want to tackle, in whole or in part." STV
"Nothing showy or brash about it, just a gentle reminder of the author`s on-going love affair with the landsacpe of Scotland," B.W, Dublin
"The Watershed is visionary, a lovely concept . . L.L, Shrewsbury
"I`m just amazed at the quality and quantity of detailed information colleceted and woven into the narative." C.S, Edinburgh
The book is dedicated to mark the centenary of John Muir`s death, in 2014 - `Its hard to imagine a more fitting tribute.` The Scotsman
"Truly an inspiration, can`t wait for the book to arrive." C.L, Linlithgow
"It weaves together all the social, cultural, environmental, historical and geographic information - quite an undertaking in itself, along with the author`s own experience." D.W, Canada
"In the chatty style, there is a delicacy of touch, and a lyricism of expression." B.W, Dublin
"Peter Wright has done lovers of wild places a great service in providing the first comprehensive description of the Watershed." Chris Townsend, TGO
"Ultimately this man and book could raise the profile of the Watershed and encourage others to view at least a few of the wonderous landscapes of Scotland whilst basking in their wildness." Scottish Wildlife. `Prize Book`
" . . Ribbon of Wildness leads us on an insightful exploration of our precious wilder land and its people." J.H, John Muir Trust
"A trully original and three dimesional view." Robin Harper
Tessa Carroll
29 April 2011Peter - you've been asked direct questions about Malcolm Wylie mapping and walking the same route as you 5 years before you did. Does Jeremy Paxman need to be brought in to get you to answer these questions?
Peter Wright
02 May 2011Hmm!
In my journal (watershedepic) of around September/October 2005, I posed the question as to whether mine was a first (of this route) or not, and ventured it `a first - as far as I am aware`. It was to be a further 2 years - August 2007 before I learnt of Malcolm`s earlier achievement. Ergo, what I said of my awareness in 2005 was indeed true - at that time.
When I was planning my walk, mainly in 2004, my first ports of call in seeking a formal definition of the watershed of Scotland, were, amongst others, the Map Room of the Naional Library of Scotland, the Royal Geographic Society, Royal Scottish Geographic Society, and sundry geographic academics. My primary interest to start with was geographic, so I naturally consulted the appropriate agencies for this, and did not purusue potential on-line sources.
If it has appeared as If I deliberately sought to misrepresent the situation at any time, either regarding my own, or anyone else`s efforts, then this is simply not so.
R Webb
03 May 2011I am sticking to the assertion that there is a north coast and thus the watershed between east and west ends at Carn Dearg.
If you have walked that far, you are entitled to go for which headland you want.
Look at it this way, go south - where does the E-W watershed end in England?
What happens when you reach Wiltshire and the Channel bound Avon kicks in?
As for mapping the beast - its whereabouts was well kent long before Dave walked it. Just needed the guts to get out and do the thing - congrats to everyone who has achieved it.
Victoria Neves Pedro
03 May 2011Jeremy Paxman?? I thought this was a friendly discusssion. It's generally the case that the development of ideas is evolutionary. Malcom and David did the walk and Peter has now done it and developed it a little further. Someone else will probably do different version of it in the future and good luck to them.
What is interesting about Peter's book is that it doesn't only talk about the journey itself (which is different and personal for each walker) he broadens the discussion to encompass the social and environmental aspects as well.
Personally I value that part almost more than the talk about the walk itself. I think all these guys have done something extraordinary and whether the watershed itself goes here or there is something to discuss over a pint and a peat fire.
Dave Hewitt
05 May 2011It’s good to see Peter Wright finally mentioning Malcolm Wylie’s name in a public forum and conceding that Malcolm’s walking of the watershed was an “earlier achievement” than his own. It’s taken a while to get Peter to say this, and quite a bit of prodding – grough deserves credit here – but he has now used the words.
One trusts that this new spirit of magnanimity will continue and that Peter will henceforth mention Malcolm – who without any doubt walked the route which Peter regards as the correct one five years before Peter – during his various media interviews, public talks and social-media writings about the watershed. Whether this will extend to his also namechecking Martin Prouse and the late Mike Allen – each of whom walked the watershed a decade before Peter, whatever his fixation with “sundry geographic academics” might tell him – remains to be seen. One can but hope.
As for Peter’s assertion that it is “simply not so” that he “sought to misrepresent the situation at any time”, this remains puzzling. Peter knew as early as August 2007 that Malcolm preceded him along the Duncansby–border route, so where does that leave his April 2011 comment to the BBC that “as I discovered, nobody had actually ever defined it”?
Or this, from his own blog, in February 2011: “the originality in my defining the Watershed for the very first time”?
It’s hard to see how those statements – with their use of “ever”, “originality” and “very first time” – fail to come under the general heading of misrepresentation.
Peter Wright
05 May 2011Well, an exchange of views there has most certainly been, and is continuing - some of it well argued, and some with a nice touch of humour too.
There are other matters relating to the Watershed of Scotland which are contentious, or will most certainly become so in the future - its` big glorious emptiness, the `sleeping giant` image is deceptive. These are not abstract factors, but must concern walkers and all those who are in any way passionate about our landscapes.
Wind Farms: There are already at least two which straddle the Watershed, with many more in very close proximiity to it. How many more such develpoments are in the planning stages? The impact of this intrusion is, and will become a matter of major and growing concern.
Power Transmission: As the technologies develop in the far north, mainly around Orkney, the power generated will have to be conveyed to the places it is needed. I supect that Beauly to Denny is only the start - watch out Forsinard and Spittal!
Housing Development: The number of houses directly on the Watershed (excluding Cumbernauld) has increased by 10% in the past couple of years.
Cumbernauld: The Watershed`s eye view of Cumbernauld may indeed be redeeming, but plans for extensive new housing development at Greenside (between the town and Palacerigg Country Park), may undermine this paradox.
Forestry: Although the Forestry Commission is pursuing high standards of biodiversity in its` own re-stocking plans, this is not being adhered to just so rigidly in the private estate. Two recent re-stocking ventures in the Border Hills have ignored the ancient `march` which is the Watershed. Come back in ten years time and you`ll need a machette!
Protection and Care: Whilst every single National environmental agency and organisation has an active presence on the Watershed, and each is doing its` own thing (with occasional partnerships), there is no overall synergy involved. A missed opportunity.
My thesis that the Watershed is a `Ribbon of Wildness` holds true, but it is not without its` contemporary threats and dangers. Greater awareness and concern about these, will serve us all well, in working together to conserve something that is irreplaceable.
David Gray
05 May 2011With reference to Dave’s legendary forensic deconstruction of a certain Corbett guide in TAC, one can suggest that Peter has been on the end of a - minor - ‘McNeishing’.
Good to see him taking it in the right spirit though.
Dave – it’s never too late to retrain for the Procurator fiscal’s office!
Dave Hewitt
05 May 2011I suspect working for the PF would pay better than freelance journalism, right enough.
Dave Hewitt
06 May 2011Even Scottish first minister Alex Salmond has been taking an interest – which is good of him, given how busy he must be just now. In the early hours of this morning he spoke of this being a "watershed moment".
RichardV
10 May 2011Peter (Wright) talked with me , and, I assume, many other people while he was planning and researching his Watershed Walk, I feel that the Map Room of the Scottish National Library, the Royal Geographical Society and the Royal Scottish Geographical Society give his arguments some credence, without diminishing the achievements of the other walkers.
I feel Grant Hutchison's comments about hypothetically extending the watershed via The Faeroes to Iceland is a bit of a red herring as they aren't in Scotland, whereas Peter's hypothetical extension via Orkney and Shetland has somewhat more validity as they are (though a few Orkadians and Shetlanders would disagree). Where would the ''submarine watershed'' continue north from Shetland?
Jon
10 May 2011So RichardV considers political boundaries to be more important than topographical boundaries in deciding the geographical validity of a watershed? [That's tongue in cheek, in case anyone doesn't realise.] It's the difference between human and physical geography I suppose.
Grant Hutchison's contributions to this discussion are very well balanced, by the way. He has already answered RichardV's question about the watershed north of Shetland, and RichardV might be in agreement with the last paragraph of Grant's second post.
interfaceimages
10 May 2011Old plagiarists never die they just don't get copied any more. Lets move on to new adventures.
RichardV
11 May 2011Scotland is surely a suitable location for the Scottish watershed?
Exile
11 May 2011But all that said. Did Mr Wright lie to newspapers and TV to promote his book?????? I think so.
Grant Hutchison
11 May 2011RichardV:
"Scotland is surely a suitable location for the Scottish watershed?"
Indeed. Although the Scottish watershed extends seamlessly into England, so it already has something of an "international" potentiality to it. A walk traversing the Scottish watershed is therefore always a walk on the "Scottish bit" of something larger.
So the question is really whether one wants to walk the "Scottish bit" of something very much larger (the global ridge system I mentioned) or the "Scottish bit" of a ridge that peters out (pardon the pun) in the Norwegian Basin.
There's no fundamental reason an argument from physical geography (like mine) should be any more or less potent than an argument from political geography. But my basic point was that I find both arguments lacking in potency.
(I'd love to see the triad completed: it's past time someone walked the northern watershed, from Wrath to Duncansby.)
Dave Hewitt
12 May 2011Grant H’s latest comment prompts two thoughts. One is to wonder how many people have walked either of the north-end sections. Two people are definitely known for each: me (1987) and Mike Allen (1994) for the Carn Dearg split to Cape Wrath – both of us heading north – and Malcolm Wylie (1996) and Peter Wright (2005) for Duncansby Head / Carn Dearg, one in each direction. But those are only the people known to have linked with the border or beyond – I can well imagine that the odd person has done one of these end chunks in isolation, especially the Cape Wrath branch given the presence of Foinaven.
Secondly, it’s all a long time ago now and increasingly fuzzy in my memory, but I can recall thinking soon after my 1987 effort that if I did ever fancy more of the same, then the two big Scottish subsidiary watersheds looked likely to provide interesting and quite lengthy outings. One would be the big northeastern watershed (what could loosely be termed the Spey–Dee watershed), which I think branches off the mainline on the north side of Loch Ericht and eventually hits the North Sea coast on one of the headlands on the Fraserburgh/Peterhead corner.
Then there is the southwestern watershed, which I think leaves the main one in the Devil’s Beef Tub area and wiggles its way by what looks to be a complicated and (from experience of that part of the world) very rough-underfoot way down through the wilds of Galloway. Quite where it finishes again looks to be debatable, given the hammerhead shape of the final bit of land beyond Stranraer, but the Mull of Galloway looks to be the most natural target.
I can’t think I’ve heard of anyone having walked either of these, but that’s not to say someone hasn’t. The full diagonal whack – Buchan coast to the Dalwhinnie hills, then the mainline to the Beef Tub followed by Galloway – would be quite something. As for me, I never had any urges post-1987 – it seems that I had one big trip in me, after which I was entirely happy to revert to normal daytrip and weekending mode for my hillgoing.
R Webb
13 May 2011Not a watershed, but bits of several - anyone thought of walking the Perthshire march? Lots of wild country there and could be combined with paddling the Tay.
Perthshire is huge and its borders are almost invariably hilly.
Dave Hewitt
22 August 2011I wasn’t intending to comment further on this thread, but a couple of things have come up which merit mention. Firstly, Peter Wright is going to be busy over the coming winter – see the schedule for his series of Ribbon of Wildness talks:
http://www.ribbonofwildness.co.uk/schedule-talks
and also various events etc on his Facebook page:
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=117819064919191&v=wall
Secondly, I’ve come across this discussion thread over at ukbothies:
http://ukbothies.freeforums.org/book-launch-the-ribbon-of-wilderness-t1507.html
It starts in September 2010 when Ribbon of Wildness was published, then gets a second wind with discussion of this grough article. In the thread, Peter Wright’s son – “Lithgae Jim” – says “Prior to either walking the watershed or publishing Ribbon Of Wildness (i forget which) my Old Boy did attemt to contact Dave Hewitt regarding the route, and Hewitts reply was that he was too busy.”
Unfortunately for Lithgae Jim, I still have the correspondence with his father. It wouldn’t be right to quote this at any length, plus it’s quite detailed and would send various readers off to sleep. But seven emails were exchanged between 18 June 2007 and 26 August 2007, four from Peter, three from me. The “too busy” reference appears to come from my first mail, in response to a request from Peter that we meet up to discuss watershed-related matters. I wrote: “Not a great time for me just now I’m afraid as I’m in an unusually hectic spell re various deadlines that’s going to last until late July. Hard to plan when I might be around, plus I’m trying to avoid putting new stuff in the diary just now. But if there’s any way I could help you via the medium of email, I’d be happy to see what I could do.”
Peter seemed happy with this and we swapped further emails about both the route and the people known to have previously done it. I said I thought there were five people all told (the four mentioned above plus Martin Prouse who did Rowardennan to the Sutherland split). In due course (November 2007) I pointed Malcolm Wylie towards Peter’s website, and they engaged in correspondence of their own in 2008. My own correspondence with Peter petered out amicably as far as I could tell – eg Peter’s last mail to me included this: “Many thanks for getting back to me so quickly. Your comments, and resposes to the things I had raised are much appreciated.”
I’m not sure how this fits with Lithgae Jim’s assessment that I was “too busy” to offer Peter any help or advice – but it should be noted that in a Scottish Hills thread in September last year
http://www.scottishhills.com/html/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=8924&start=0
Lithgae Jim also claimed – and then retracted the claim – that I’d “had several meetings” with his father, whereas in fact I’ve never knowingly met either Peter Wright or his son.
R Webb
29 November 2012An update:
Colin Meek ran the E-W and N-E Watersheds this summer (2012, Duncansby finish) , so another name to the list of folk that did it. A rather special achievment, that is a hard run up there with the munro runs.
Unfortunately the MCoS in Scottish Mountaineer have repeated the incorrect history of the walk and have twice claimed that it was discovered and walked first by Wright. This does say a lot about the quality of their research.
Peter Wright has a new book out, or about to be published.
Valentine Allan
25 January 2013How sad. Like angry drivers bickering over the last space in the car park.
Jim mc ginty
22 April 2013Good luck to Peter wright enjoy many more walks,it was a pleasure to meet you in Shetland,your love of our wild country outdoors should encourage all of us to get our boots on ,and go out and enjoy our heritage as it was intended,best wishes.