i've been on this mountain loads of times all year round since mid 80's & the sights i have seen annoy me these people should be billed for all the cost & effort for shear stupidity in my opionion karl

This is outrageous-Hopefully all these organisations will be able to claim against his personal liability insurance (on his household insurance)-He not only risks his own life but that of the rescue teams!!
Once he's well he should be named and shamed-Total idiot!

Completely and utterly reckless.I hope the MRT boys gave him a thorough debriefing.Lucky boy.

I would love to ask these people if they actually know they should get the right gear and for whatever reason they don't. Or have they no idea of the danger they are putting themselves in by not having the right kit.

See it every time up there, not sure what the answer is, thick people will carry on being thick and I reckon it's getting worse

This article makes me so mad!!! I saw the same thing at Pen y fan last week where families were taking children up the mountain with no proper coats or even water or food supplies. The summit was icy and freezing with very heavy winds. Nothing like the mild conditions at the bottom. Nobody is saying spend hundreds on expensive equipment but people need to respect the weather and understand the dangers so that others don't have to risk their lives to rescue them!!!

Stupid person. He should be charged for the rescue.

When will they learn they will think twice if they have to pay on call outs

Dave M you are right, but we will get the MRT boys (normally one from Langdales in particular) on here saying that everybody has the right to enjoy the hills and to make a mistake.

Some people can't be blamed for being morons but they should not be allowed to put other peoples lives at risk to come and save them. I know that call can't be made before the event but I believe that once it is clear that their actions can be classed as reckless then the law should be able to levy fines on them.

I've been on snowdon in all weathers from heavy rain, blistering sun and -14 blizzards, you must have a deep respect for the mountain remoteness and be prepared for the worst. I've seen family's walking up in flip flops complaining of thirst!! A group of lads carrying a box of beer in jeans and a t shirts in the cold and laughing. People like this are reckless and bring it upon themselves and also put others at risk. This mountain and others can kill.

I do think people should be charged, but how do you police that and at what cost?

Naming and shaming is pointless, it has no benefit. So we know the guys name, what do we do? go round his gaff and give him the proper gear, or shout at him? no it just makes us feel self righteous. I cannot see the point.
Most people do take care. Social media can be quite vitriolic, and I wonder how many people out there donate to MRT, whilst moaning about a guy who screwed up.
Volunteers know they risk they're lives, it's a brave and noble choice, so let's support them rather than moaning.

Lucky to be alive. Walkers in our hills have been lulled into a false sense of security because we have these wonderful volunteers. If they set out in clear weather in the winter, they are so often unaware how quickly things can change, and how long it takes to climb a hill and get back down safely. I'm sure many of those who get into difficulties here in the Peak District do so because they came for a stroll and got carried away..
The information is there for everyone, but you can lead a horse to water.....

I think awareness needs to be raised to highlight the dangers of not preparing properly when undertaking such a challenge. I remember some years ago, watching an informertial about getting into trouble in the sea. (The bloke with the knotted hanky on his head waving at the poor soul in the water)
I think that a similar campaign would help raise the profile of a very enjoyable outdoor activity and inform people of the dangers.

One word sums him up COCK as a ML I would never venture out in winter without ice ax and crampons, and well done to the MRT team.
He put your lives in danger by being such a fool.
People need educating about hill skills, this was just stupid and idiotic.

It shows, MRT are there for the idiots as well as the well prepared! Well done MRT.

Has anyone thought about this 37 year old's mental state? Or is he just plain stupid?

The cost of this rescue mission must have escalated into the tens of thousands, not to mention the jeopardy he put the rescue team in.

Just because our mountains are smaller than those in Europe or Nepal doesn't mean they deserve the contempt and lack of respect shown by this imbecile. I can only hope he goes on to do some good and volunteer alongside some of his rescuers, if only for a day, so he has an idea of the heroics these guys perform.

People are free to do what they want, however daft. You can run a marathon on a gorilla suit. Leave the foolish be - there are very few if them.

Yes he made mistakes but who hasn't? even ML's...

It happens and as has been mentioned the MR teams know the drills and are well prepared for those less informed about the dangers of our mountains - or those whose brains are often left at home.. well done MR I am pretty sure this guy will share his very fortunate to share lessons...

Having worked on Snowdon for 10 years and many more Years walking and climbing, also a member of the search and rescue organisations. The vast majority of people respect the fact that Snowdon is a mountain that will and has killed many well trained adequately equipped mountaineers.

There will always be a minority of ill equipped non mountaineer's seeking out some kind of ill advised adventure. The rescue team's that cover Snowdon and their colleagues that cover Snowdonia as a whole; have done a remarkable amount of work to raise Public awareness to try and avoid these all to frequent events.

Our feelings should go to the Men and Women of the team's that carried out an outstanding rescue, and averted what could so easily have been a tragedy. Congratulations to you all. !!!

This could be a good lesson... To learn how dangerous things can get.
Maybe he could have to take a two day course , how to help
People in dangerous up in the moutains! Paying it of course!!!

I was on the mountain on Saturday with my normal level of equipment crampons ice axe food extra clothing and all the usual equipment to cover all situations. However you always get the people on the hill I'll prepared with the weather 75 mph winds and snow hail rain all in the same few hours. Came across two young lads coming down the scree from crib coch then proceeding down the grass embankments to cliff face trying to head too the miners path totally unaware of the dangers. I decided to call them back to the pig track to stop a potential mountain rescue situation. Some times we have to be very firm to stop this madness they were in jeans trainers.

We hear the same stories year in year out, it makes you wonder how many times in the past they've got away with it. We'll done to the fantastic Mountain Rescue and RAF god only knows what will happen when SAR is privatised, fantastic sight when you see the yellow bird out.

I was top of Snowden in November in snow, with spikes on and the people who did not were slipping and falling. The ice was the problem, but no one would turn round. Before mobile phones, people knew they had to get back themselves. There is no excuse, conditions gradually get worse - giving plenty of time to think !!!!. But the time of day is a factor . I and I!m sure many writers above have seem people on there way up and saying to yourself it will be dark before they get to the top.
Yes some enjoy the pleasure of using a torch, but you can see who is equipped and who is not.
A very well done to the rescue team

people need to calm down. I've climbed 100's of Scottish mountains in all sorts of weather, and have been up and down snowdon every which way. last ascent was the cribau ridge in winter. don't think just because you have been to TISO and spent £100 on a pair if trousers and £150 you can climb A mountain and get down safetly. you are not invincible. with all my knowledge of this mountain and all the knowledge I've gained over the years I could go out and climb this mountain tomorrow in jeans and trainers. it's about experience not how much crap you have shelled out to look like every other person walking around the streets of betws-y-coed.

The comments on here about chastising this man are a contrast to the majority of comments on the grough Facebook page which put a different slant on things.

The comment, 'I'm an ML and always carry an axe...etc' made me laugh. Of course you are going to be well prepared, you have spent lots of time and money on getting training and experience, this 37 year old man clearly has had none so to compare our own experiences on the hills with his is wrong as its like comparing chalk and cheese! Also as an ML should you not be inspiring and passing on your experience, helping out people like this instead of criticising?

Also you can have all the gear and no idea as mentioned above, so being properly clothed and equipped is only part of it!

A lot of good comments and suggestions when you read through all the above, I walk over here in Donegal and yes you see people in all states of attire walking up mountains the question can you play golf with out golf clubs? can you mountain bike with out a bike? can you paddle in the sea with out a kayak? the answer NO so what makes them think they can walk up a mountain in jeans and trainers? with out the right gear who knows what or how they think. Technology has come a long way mobile phones GPS etc. but you need the skills to know how they work they go flat quicker the colder it gets, You need skills to use a compass and map it like all the sports above you need to learn, some learn by BIG mistakes - hopefully the guy taken of the mountain has learned from his mistake after all the MRT saved his life how much is that worth to him and his family? I would think if you asked him today he has learned the hard way. To go walking in mountains is great fun to risk your own life is crazy to risk other peoples makes you even more stupid, SARLOC and the MRT do a great job to rescue people from their stupidly long my they continue and remember the next time the MRT are out looking for money in your area put some in it might be you that needs them next time your out on the mountain accident's happen to us all no mater what gear we carry with us.

I blame the charities for promoting the 3 Peaks challenge without proper information on the severity of the areas being covered.

Love the comment about being skilled enough to walk on jeans and trainers. If you were that skilled you would know why they make for such an "interesting" combination, and why you don't wear them. Experience will soon sort out show offs as well.
One way to look at the chap who had to be rescued is that it is simply natural selection in action. The stupid soon do away with themselves, leaving more room for the rest of us.

I have taken a man and his young children off the hill in similar dangerous conditions. He had brogues on and jeans.

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And sadly there are so many like him out there - we met some 'out of country' tourists just south of Sca Fell last year asking for directions to Scafell Pike. We offered to show them the route on their map.......... and out came a road atlas!

Last week me and some friends (experience hill walkers in all weathers) were due to go to lakes for a day of high mountain walking. However, the weather reports & forecasts deteriorated so much, we cancelled our plans. Sometimes you just have to think, they'll be there another day, I'd like to be as well.

As others, have seen the jeans & t-shirt brigade on snowdon, Ben Nevis, all over the hills in the uk - have told some people they are ill equipped to continue their route or offered advice to people who were obviously lost but too proud to ask for help - but you generally get sworn at. You shake your head, continue on your way and scan grough the next day for reports of incidents and then be thankful there wasn't any where you were.

People have freedom of choice - but sometimes choices can have consequences - you hope that they don't pay an ultimate price, but you also hope that when they recount the tail of their adventure, warts and all, one listener will think twice about taking what could be a terminal decision.

Go out in a city in mountain clothes and you will be riddiculed. Same should happen to them. No prejudice. We all started somewhere.

I have seen many people on Snowdon with none or very little equipment for a day on the mountain! Its common sense to take the basics with you. Once again the mountain rescue guys prove to be invaluable..well done guys.

Well done mountain rescue. Finding a guy who is hypothermic and disorientated in the frozen dark on Snowdon is no easy task. Could easily have been a fatality. Can't agree with the chap who thinks if you are experienced its OK to make it in jeans and trainers, Col is exactly right as those who know, know why this is not a good idea in those conditions.

I'd like to think the chap who has been rescued has learned his lesson and will take the right kit next time. Better to have it than to need it and not have it !